Professional reviews on several popular car key cutting machines
This is a professional review on key cutting machines, including Xhorse Condor Mini master series, Miracle A7 key cutting machine, Viper machine, Ninja laser & v8/x6 key cutter, by an experienced locksmith. http://blog.qooza.hk/obd2tool?eid=28288731
“condor xc-mini is a good budget machine , more suited to the workshop than mobile due to size and weight. it has some bugs , some issues and some gaps , but the quick and easy update for lifetime plus wonderful function are the scoring points. this for what it costs, on the whole a decent machine for the money. condor XC MINI Miracle A7 is a reliable machine , has a few bugs but reliable as a light use machine , ideal mobile on a van and space saving . miracle a7 Viper is a heavy machine and can play up in cold , but is a great heavy duty machine that will give a lifetime of reliable use and receives lifetime updates and as Silca is normally up to date.
Ninja laser – excellent machine , nothing better for me on sx9 keys , laguna 3 , megane 3 , new clio cards using 1234Q5678H series and decoding and cutting clio 3 keys , fast reliable cutting that allows you to pick various styles of cut as well as adjust to half cuts etc , the software can take getting used to due to the functions available on it , adds cylinder keys to your services too , its a well built machine that is like silca updated for life free.
most will cut a tibbe key on a clamp , but none will in my view cut a perfect tibbe key , a stand alone option will always cut a better key and far quicker too .
I have all of the above machines , so have hands on and regular experience with each machine and use them all , i like them all over the next for certain functions and all do different jobs for me , viper will always be my baby as it was my first , but ninja laser is catching it up fast my only gripe is viper is 30 second boot time , ninja laser is 4 minutes to boot up , but these 2 are in a league of their own
condor xc-mini key machine is a far superior machine to the v8/x6 key cutter, the x6 is a starter machine for very light use and build quality is poor in comparison , i had an x6 to play with for a few months , i wouldn’t buy one having gone hands on with it , condor will last longer and be more reliable of the 2 , its at least being supported and updated which is a big plus and is a far superior build quality to the x6 which at best is a hobby or starter machine . v8-x6-key-cutting-machine it isn’t always 100% accurate , but the find biting function on condor is useful if you don’t have instacode to hand , and is a useful addition that makes the condor more useful.
Below is what i tested with Xhorse Condor machine.
Do Toyota TOY43 all key lost, save you a lot of time Cut Suzuki, Mazda (key tooth in ignition lock more than door lock) all key lost, simply by enter the key code Do Hyundai, Kia, Peugeot, and Citroen all key lost, directly program keys HU101 works fine, HU92 works fine. HU66 OK, have to do two passes on each side to get the key to work, same with hu100. Fix the problem that other key cutting machines cut domestic Honda key not accurately But it is a pity that there is no solution for Renault emergency blade yet”
submitted by obd365
Automotive Locksmith here: Do US Honda Motorcycles use HISS?
My Brother-in-Law just lost his only key to his 2013 Honda Shadow 750. I work on cars every day but this is my first venture into motorcycles.
I've tried in vain to research the matter, but I'm reading a lot of conflicting information.
It seems Honda has some transponder technology in the new bikes, but some information indicates that only non-US bikes use HISS. Do US bikes use a different transponder technology?
Instacode shows a Silca Key Blank of HON70T14, and a Keyline of HD70UTK100. The blade itself looks exactly like an HD109 shoulder stop key, so I would guess that makes a suitable service key to test bitting on. It cuts on a CF73 card, and I have that in my kit.
I don't know shit about motorcycles, honestly. I'm fucking stumped. How would I begin to even get the bitting? I can't exactly take a NASTF code on a bike, can I? Do bikes have another lock I could pull wafers out of to decode? Something easier (and safer!) than the master ignition cylinder? There's only three depths on the key, so I could possibly impression it, but jesus... the time that would take.
Then there's the programming aspect of it. I almost have to imagine this is a project for the dealer, but I'm really trying to help this guy out as I think he's flat broke. I'm seeing online people have paid upwards of 1500 USD to have the ECU pulled from the bike, and replaced with a fresh set of keys.
Any help would be appreciated. I am separated from the vehicle right now or I would be prodding around inside it already.
submitted by EphramRafael